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05/24/2013 3:20:22 pm Good point Paul. We already have excellent xc ski opportunities and a good trail system for hiking, hiking down a straight flat rail road line may not be that big a draw, the same holds for Xc ski, however I think snowmobiler's would love it! I think a trail system would likely end up being used mainly by ATV's and snowmobiles given where this rail line goes. 05/24/2013 2:37:43 pm Agreed. But let's not frame this too much as the family friendly healthy alternative. Snow machines will be able to wail down this baby at 80 miles per hour. Hope, you probably know how it is out in Lake Clear now. I was rabbit hunting out there this past winter and I couldn't hear our dog barking half the time it was so loud with all the snow machines tearing up that RR trail. Come to think of it... 05/24/2013 2:05:04 pm The BSA has chosen to stick its finger in the wind and follow on this issue, rather than lead like the Girl Scouts did. It’s chosen a King Solomonesque compromise that not only satisfies no one and is pretty of incoherent. Its message is that there’s nothing wrong with being gay when you’re a kid... but there is when you’re an adult.
But because BSA is sticking its finger in the wind, BSA will eventually allow... 05/24/2013 12:59:23 pm My personal belief is that snowmobilers deserve to have a place to ride and the travel corridor is designated a snowmobile trail already even though it doesn't work well with the tracks in place currently. I personally enjoy skiing, both downhill and cross country. I wouldn't really enjoy the tracks as a venue for skiing that much. I would use the snowmobile trail to access other skiing possibilities... 05/24/2013 12:22:14 pm All this controversy over the rail/trail issue will be forgotten once the ACR gets its permit. The town will be swimming in tax revenue, the schools will be saved, our children will get great paying jobs with fantastic benefits. There will be so much money the Rails and trails issue will be solved, we can have both. 05/24/2013 11:58:51 am Camp Bedford was a blast. Surprised we all were not killed. Too bad they didn't have a merit badge for placing one kids cot in the pond while he was asleep (he was pretty surprised when he woke up), or for learning how to smoke cigars!
I loved the boy scouts but we didn't let our boys join since they had this problem. Maybe they are coming out of the woods. 05/24/2013 11:49:45 am I agree that a side-by-side option the whole way is doable but it probably can't be done. I also agree with you Hope. Personally I would not enjoy riding on the side by side deal. In the case studies at ARTA it looks like the one side-by-side option they have is actually pretty popular (almost 400,000 users per year). But I would also not enjoy much riding on this flat (probably dusty) trail that is going... 05/24/2013 11:40:18 am Epic cultural change for an old, stubborn, discriminatory organization. This is good news, for sure.
But let's not go overboard with the praise. For starters, the half baked way this has been approved defies all reason. If you are gay, you can be a boy scout until you reach the age of 18... and then we kick you out?
What on earth? Are they the Menudo of discrimination?
I don't know, and... 05/24/2013 11:17:38 am Hope, trains only blow their whistles at RR crossing: the nearest RR crossing to Low's is 2.4 miles; to Lila, it's 3.5. 05/24/2013 11:05:36 am The Side by side option down the entire length of the corridor from Lake Placid to Old Forge is an "Impossibility" due to the environmental constraints of filling in wetlands or building boardwalks along side. Sure if you throw enough money at something you can certainly engineer it and build it but you actually need to permit it first. Already the side by side trail from Lake Placid to Saranac Lake has... 05/24/2013 10:58:49 am when I was a scout, in the mid seventies there was a drift in scouting to be more urban.
a lot of required merit badges were changed in order to accommodate "city" scouts.
perched on the verge of becoming eagle scout, a lot of my more "outdoor" badges like camping, cooking, were replaced with citizenship in the community, and were no longer "required" so I never made... 05/24/2013 10:56:57 am How come the RR shut down in 1981? ...Because it was not economically sustainable. Certainly track maintenance from Beaver River to Tupper was expensively necessary. Was that the reason why it stopped running after generous taxpayer money got it going for the 1980 Winter Olympics, or was it the top-skimming "entrepreneurs" who blamed it on washouts?
Has anyone done a cost analysis of tourist vs. heavy... 05/24/2013 10:54:55 am I looked through some of the ARTA documents. On two of the rail-to-trail case studies it looks like the RR was abandoned for 56 years for one and 20 years for another. It wasn't clear that any had working trains on them at the time but I can't tell for sure. Doesn't mean you can't kick them off. I would just say that on this point David makes:
"Both rail and trail advocates have... 05/24/2013 10:54:44 am The Daily Enterprise bears some responsibility in this "controversy". They continue to print the same hold hashed out letters from the ARTA folks, even when they were the same letters published by other papers. The only ARTA letter writer I trust is Dick Beamish, and he doesn't buy the company line of "rip it all up". Some of the "rip it up" letters are downright venomous and some... 05/24/2013 10:38:03 am I agree completely with Newt’s point. A civilized society has many mechanisms to resolve disagreement or conflict. The basketball game has referees, the baseball game umpires. Civil courts decide between claimants. A state can call a referendum. Lawmakers debate and vote, and people vote for or against candidates who support certain positions. A big part of what government agencies do is to weigh evidence and... 05/24/2013 10:35:51 am Paul -
http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_intro.asp 05/24/2013 10:28:38 am All I remember about being first a cub scout and then a boy scout is fun. We had fun camping, meeting and working on projects.
Was any scout or leader gay? Maybe. Who knew and who cared? I don't recall even knowing there was such a thing as gay when I was a scout.
I don't think it should matter one way or the other but I do know why it does now and didn't way back when.
Way back when, I don't... 05/24/2013 10:25:30 am PNElba, How do you get text in bold and italicized like that? 05/24/2013 10:22:45 am One thing the rail supporters do have on their side is three operating trains on the RR. I also think they are refurbishing rails at the southern end of the line extending it north, or perhaps that is already complete as far as they intend to go. How many miles are in operation at that end? What do the folks at the southern end think? I have posed this question several times and don't think there has been a... 05/24/2013 10:21:18 am There are lots of pedophiles attracted to girls. Probably all adult males who volunteer to work with children (for example adult male coaches of teenage girls) should be trained and supervised. That said, many children need the concerned adult guidance and attention they get from organized activities in order to thirive. It can make a huge difference to their lives. |
