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07/31/2014 8:15:29 am
There is more than enough money spent on public pre-K-12 education. If they eliminated the people drawing an"education paycheck" who have nothing to do with students and used that money to provide varied opportunities rather than a one size fits all education scheme I think we'd all feel better about the tax dollars being spent on public education.

07/30/2014 5:11:56 pm
OK, not sorry to go on: What's the fix? " If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it." You say wha? Well, for a whole lot of kids they are doing fine. They get it. Sooo, " Don't throw out the baby with the bath water." Stop changing how math is taught to everyone because some do not get it. simple as that. TRACK STUDENTS IN MATH FROM DAY ONE. Yes, grouping by ability, progress, whatever you want to...

07/30/2014 4:56:55 pm
All good and valid points Mervel. As late as the 60s and much of the 70s that one in four you speak of could still find gainful employment. Factories, and other decent paying jobs. You could make $10 an hour in the seventies just sweeping the floors at J&L Steel or working in the talc mines. Enough to get a person by on and often times a better wage than those other three in four were getting. Not true...

07/30/2014 3:28:37 pm
Sorry to go on, but the final point is that we are not getting worse in my opinion, the rest of the world is just getting much better. But there is something going on with math there is no doubt about it; I think we have always been poor at math, the issue is we must do better in a global economy.

07/30/2014 3:24:35 pm
Also as Mr. Kent shows, there is a lot of accepted wisdom surrounding education that simply is not true. I have children in middle and high school right now. Looking at their work; I don't really buy that we are far worse off academically than we were 40 years ago. I do think we have a major problem with high school graduation and a major problem with a group of young people in this country that currently...

07/30/2014 2:33:46 pm
I think we need a little humility as a country on this issue ( and many others). Many other countries are doing a better job providing math education, lets simply look at what they are doing and adopt some of it.

07/30/2014 9:37:09 am
Ms. Martin, your experience sounds more like a business hiring problem. If a plumbing company hires an employee to work for them and that employee cannot perform the function of the job assigned to them, then would you say we have a problem with competent plumbers in this country? Maybe you would, but I would argue that if you paid wages that were attractive to prospective applicants, then you would get a better...

07/29/2014 11:43:50 pm
High achieving students and top level schools do very well in the U.S. and Canada. (Probably always will.) That post was actually prompted by the lad behind the till who gave me too much change a few days after I read that NYT article. An example of slippage in basic math. When I explained the error and gave the extra $5 bill back he said "That's a switch. Usually I give back too little, not too much."...

07/29/2014 10:24:24 am
The whole " We have a problem and a shortage of math/science people in our society and the public school is to blame " is a false premise. Would commentators who rely on a newspaper reporters article as a main discussion point on the subject matter at hand consider reading some serious inquiry into the subject matter before making assumptions? I would highly suggest research done over an extensive period of...

07/29/2014 10:07:33 am
The problem with the Times article is the same problem that most Times articles have. It is excessively wordy and is constructed in such a way as to reach a preordained conclusion. In effect, if you argue with the Times, you are branded as stupid. The Times thinks very highly of itself. In many ways, it believes it speaks with authority (ex cathedra) given to it by God.

07/29/2014 6:51:51 am
The Japanese teacher has a passion for his subject and for teaching that I think is sadly lacking in his American counterparts. In all fairness to American teachers, their jobs seem to have devolved into babysitting, test prep and mostly pointless paperwork. Freeing them to TEACH THEIR SUBJECT might reawaken a passion for something other than their summer vacation. If teachers went after that freedom with the same...

07/28/2014 9:17:58 pm
I, too, am inspired by the role of dogs and volunteers in these efforts. It's a mark of a successful community when the lines between professionals, government and volunteers blur. It's also great to see the State Police acknowledge the help. What I can't quite figure out is why searchers wear camouflage? I know it's often their uniform, but it would seem that an orange vest would make it easier to see other...

07/28/2014 9:12:33 pm
Would the commentators entertain the idea of reading the NY Times article referenced above with an openness to and engagement with its content?

07/28/2014 4:21:25 pm
Stillin--I'm deducting points for crimes against syntax and punctuation here, including ham-handed use of ellipses and quotation marks.

07/28/2014 7:57:07 am
Here's what's NOT the fix...expensive, "math workshops" for math teachers...incentive pay to go to them..."golden trophies" for those who did so well and golden apples for those who teach it. The education paid by everyone, goes into the bottomless pit of these kind of things. We know what DOESN'T work, and we throw money at it like it grows on tree. Then, SURPRISE! Nobody does any better, usually...

07/27/2014 1:30:29 pm
Exactly. Pete Klein is right. Fact: The highest scores on Regents exams and SAT scores were in the 1960s. Then " new math" became the " thing" and ever since scores have come down. The SAT had to be re centered ( meaning the old score of 1,000 was replaced by a score of 900 and 100 "free" points were added to your score simply by signing the test). This happened in the late 1990s. And that is act. Now,...

07/26/2014 9:57:25 am
Maybe the fix is to go back to before the smart people decided math needed fixing. Problem with education in general is there are too many people whose jobs depend upon fixing what never need fixing.

07/23/2014 9:19:42 pm
I tink another thing that is missing is the grants and special funding... For example...the state said Lake Placid (and other communities) needed to upgrade their water filtration... for Lake Placid if they would have put a charge on flushes per room (i.e. so hotels/motels/resorts would have financed the improvements)... that would have cut into profits.... Instead the state gave LP something like $15 million to...

07/21/2014 8:12:52 pm
Paul, The last paragraph in the article pretty clearly defines that "13,890 jobs, 17.9 percent of all employment in the region, and $332 million in labor income" was the contribution that the tourism industry provided for the Adirondack region in 2012; does it not? The only jobs I was basing my calculations upon were the jobs which were being lauded by the intent of the entire article. All I am pointing out is...

07/21/2014 4:41:28 pm
This thing ended in a TIE? What a rip off!!