02/05/2012 4:13:37 am
I want that cow!
02/04/2012 11:47:49 pm
thanks for the research PNelba. half a million a year and new york is the abortion capital of our country. this data nauseates me. America has innocent blood on their hands and I am afraid will be held accountable.
02/04/2012 10:12:32 pm
CDC also keeps track of abortions in the USA. See table 8 for abortions by weeks of gestation. Sorry about the poor pro-choicer research.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6015a1.htm?s_cid=ss6015a1_w#Tab8
02/04/2012 10:08:49 pm
Walker,
Guttmacher Institute estimated the number of abortions in the USA done past 24 weeks to be 0.08% or about 1,032 per year.
02/04/2012 10:03:30 pm
But Walker the Wing story is real, this debate is not real. Its just us talking with no one changing their mind. I don't know; in some ways the abortion movement both pro and con, has become a cult. It is not that meaningful.
Abortion IS meaningful but the debate that surrounds it is not.
02/04/2012 9:34:01 pm
Walker
I never said it is an inevitable consequence of abortion. I know of many women that have long lasting affects from their abortion. Everybody is different I respect that. There are men to that regret lost fatherhood. It is a heartbreaking story. I feel bad for those that are hurting but there is hope and healing programs out there. Especially when a person is drawn to a relationship with God they have a strong...
02/04/2012 9:16:14 pm
I am pro-choice and yet I have 2 children and no aborted fetuses.
02/04/2012 8:51:54 pm
Well I have known five women who had abortions. One had some regrets, and went on to have three children. The other four were very happy with their choice. It is disingenuous of anti-choice people to suggest that heartache and pain are the inevitable consequence of abortion. It is not true.
02/04/2012 8:31:21 pm
@pnelba
"The life of the mother means nothing...."
I have listened to many mothers who mourn the loss of their aborted children, mothers who can't have any more children due to the physical affect of their abortion, mothers who have have tried to commit suicide after having their child killed from an abortion and they could not bear to live with themselves, mothers who were addicted to drugs alcohol self abuse...
02/04/2012 8:29:50 pm
Well, I confess that I am surprised. According to this site (http://realchoice.blogspot.com/2008/10/third-trimester-abortions-and-law.html ) ten states place no restrictions on post-viability abortions. A commenter there states that "In 2002, 1.4 percent of abortions were performed on fetuses older than 20 weeks gestational age" so although some of the language at that site rather snarkily suggests that the...
02/04/2012 7:38:38 pm
And I've yet to meet a fundie that can interpret their so-called research. Try looking up the definition of a therapeutic abortion. The life of the mother means next to nothing to you so-called pro-lifers.
02/04/2012 7:23:10 pm
I haven't met a prochioicer(I'm sorry Walker do you consider yourself prochiice?) yet that can do their own research. Google third trimester abortion clinics and this is what I got:
http://www.google.com/m/search?oe=UTF-8&client=ms-rim&channel=browser&hl=en&q=third+trimester+abortion+clinics&ei=vcktT9DbOomZyAHtzQE&ved=0CDkQ1QIoAA
02/04/2012 6:32:39 pm
Mervel, the reason we're not exercised about the poor kid from Potsdam is that murder is illegal. Everywhere. People _will_ break the law.
02/04/2012 6:29:47 pm
NLB, I'm sorry, but I'm most interested in what goes on in this country, where I have some hope of influencing what laws apply. In California, where Gianna Jessen's abortion is supposed to have happened 35 years ago, third trimester abortions are currently illegal. I have no idea what the law was in 1977, but it would seem very odd to me if Planned Parenthood performed an abortion on a seven-plus months pregnant...
02/04/2012 5:25:02 pm
There are others that survived abortions. There are abortions happening right up to the day before birth especially in china where there is a one child policy and you must have a license to bring that one into the world. This is happening! 30,000 a day women are dragged out of their homes forced abortions and forced sterilization. The reason why prolifers are so passionate is because the unborn have no voice of...
02/04/2012 5:01:46 pm
That's a really, really strange story. I have never, ever heard of an abortion at seven and a half months.
Tell you what. I agree, without reservation, that abortions shouldn't be performed for any reason other than to save the life of the mother after six months. I would be willing to bet Mitt Romney's $10,000 that that would prevent very few abortions.
Incidentally, the Wikipedia article on abortion starts by...
02/04/2012 4:58:54 pm
Knuckle, I know it is fascinating the amount of fervor this topic brings on both sides.
Look at the story right before this one, that poor kid from Potsdam murdered; yet not one comment. I mean we are all saying we care about life yet we are not thinking about him and his poor family we are arguing about rights and laws and so forth. It is not about rights and laws I think it should be about our hearts.
02/04/2012 4:45:47 pm
No, Walker. This living, breathing person existed in a way that many say is not alive and was actively aborted. Big difference.
This person was obviously a person before, during, and now, after being aborted.
It takes away the argument that you are aborting something less than a human being when, one who was aborted, is alive to tell you that they are a person.
02/04/2012 4:33:42 pm
Well sure, but you could make a similar case about contraception-- think of all of those people you have kept from existing by using birth control. Back in the day, ten children per couple was common. If you've got the now-normal two or three kids, there are seven or eight human being that you prevented from having a life.
02/04/2012 3:45:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ
Gianna Jessen is one of many abortion survivors. It's harder to kill someone who is around to talk about it.
Some here think it's ok, as long as you get to kill them before they are born.
Tell Gianna whether or not you think she is just a piece of flotsam or jetsam.